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Old 04-12-2007, 09:37 PM
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Blimey Moz, are you me?

Umm not the last time I looked.... LOL

oh and I'm 48 - any advance?
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Old 04-12-2007, 09:43 PM
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Umm not the last time I looked.... LOL

oh and I'm 48 - any advance?

Beaten by just over a year........but then I kinda knew that already!
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Old 04-12-2007, 09:44 PM
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oh and I'm 48 - any advance?
Hey, Moz ! I am 46 1/2 (9 November 1961) !!! I think Philthy is a few months older than me - so we are the Veterans so far !!! Great to see so much young blood and new recruits to the Saxon Army ! Perhaps the Militia Guard should be reformed !!?

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Perhaps the Militia Guard should be reformed !!?

I'd be up for that!!!
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Well I've been reading threads on here and now on the Classic Rock site and I think there needs to be a reality check for some of the diehard fans out there - and I was around from the days BEFORE they were Saxon in case anyone thinks how do I know anything!

Sorry for a long first real post but I really think this needed to be said. Take a step back, take out your passion and see with fresh eyes. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but I think this is really more where things are than some around here would like to (or would be prepared to) acknowledge.
Good to hear your views, Moz. As you say - you were there at the very beginning and had a major part to play in making Saxon great and promoting them with the Militia Guard etc.

It is easy to put on blinkers and not see the "bigger picture". I will give my views on the documentary later when I have more time (it is chaos here at the moment !).

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Old 04-13-2007, 07:10 AM
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Well Mozz

That has to be the most frank reply/observation/opinion I have read on the subject of the HG debate.

It covers just about everything and I for one agree with everything you have written.

A very constructive piece and I hope that the powers that be read this and at least give some of your points some serious thought.
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:58 AM
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Welcome to the new site Moz (and welcome home), and as everyone else has said a cracking first post.

I went to the recording of the E4 programme and so far have kept my "powder dry" so to speak. But what I was going to do was start a new thread in a similar vein to yours.

I won't go in to too much detail at this point (due to time restraints)

Basically I went to the show hell bent on "defending" a band I follow and love, I had prepared questions (again I will share them some other time), I had my pre-conceived views which without having seen the documentary where probably unfair.

I came away from the programme recording both frustrated and angry but now in the cold light of day and having seen the final edit, why was I frustrated and angry? If i'm honest was it because the recording took so long, or was it because despite being invited to take part (following a 20-25 minute phone interview/grilling) most of us from the Saxon forum were tucked away out of shot and were not given the opportunity to defend our favourite band?

But lets face it in reality did the band need defending? Probably not is the answer, they did choose to take part. Yeah it didn't come out the way they thought it would but as Biff says in his latest blog they kind of expected that.

There are bits of the programme that still make me angry:

Whenever HG was having an altercation with Biff regarding musical direction, he kept saying fuck (excuse the language, HG's words not mine) the old fans !

Things like HG making out he put his neck on the line for the Sheffield gig, it wasn't shown on the programme but finance wise Thomas and the band had to make a financial commitment for that gig. And to cap it all it was VERY POORLY promoted, by one of the world greatest promoters.

Plus the personal and frankly out of order attacks on individual's style (I'm referring to the comments on Nige's new hair cut). I bet he never told Bob Geldof to have a wash or even brush his hair.

The way Thomas was edited was bang out of order !

And finally why couldn't they have highlighted the New Album / tourdates at the end of the show.

To sum up though as you said Moz - "Any publicity is good publicity" and I'm sure HG has opened some doors that my never have been re-opened. This has to now be looked at as an opportunity that needs to be grabbed with both hands.
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I still havent seen a single second of the ch4 show,... maybe in future, but if I dont see it, I can live with it,..
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I still havent seen a single second of the ch4 show,... maybe in future, but if I dont see it, I can live with it,..
If your a UK resident you can see both shows online via 4od for free as part of their catch up. www.channel4.com/4od
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Old 04-16-2007, 02:37 PM
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Welcome to the new site Moz (and welcome home), and as everyone else has said a cracking first post.

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There are bits of the programme that still make me angry:

Whenever HG was having an altercation with Biff regarding musical direction, he kept saying fuck (excuse the language, HG's words not mine) the old fans !

Things like HG making out he put his neck on the line for the Sheffield gig, it wasn't shown on the programme but finance wise Thomas and the band had to make a financial commitment for that gig. And to cap it all it was VERY POORLY promoted, by one of the world greatest promoters.

Plus the personal and frankly out of order attacks on individual's style (I'm referring to the comments on Nige's new hair cut). I bet he never told Bob Geldof to have a wash or even brush his hair.

The way Thomas was edited was bang out of order !

And finally why couldn't they have highlighted the New Album / tourdates at the end of the show.

To sum up though as you said Moz - "Any publicity is good publicity" and I'm sure HG has opened some doors that my never have been re-opened. This has to now be looked at as an opportunity that needs to be grabbed with both hands.
Thanks glad you appreciated where the post came from

I think some of Harvey's wit didn't come over very well - I'm sure Nigel had a chuickle about the "drag queen" remark - made me laugh too! Nigel's cool and has a great sense of humour!

Him saying "fuck the old fans" is a selective bit of quoting you miss the point there as he did follow that up with they are your fans already meaning they will come with you on the journey NOT forget them and fuck them off.

As for the other things I knew there would have been finiancial considerations for Sheffield as they'd have to incur costs for staging/pa/lights etc.

As for the editing where Thomas is concerned I am glad he is more proactive than the show made him appear..
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